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perpetual outrage machine
Oct. 8th, 2018 09:31 amWatching the pagan community implode once again, due to yet another scandal and accusations of abuse. Watching people turn against each other and start rumors, or "confirm" things that happened years ago. Yet not a damn person did a fucking thing to stop it.
Funny thing is, one of the alleged victims was a VERY prominent teacher, blogger, herbalist etc.
She now accuses two of her exes of some pretty horrendous things. And she also accuses other authors of sexual abuse at pagan festivals.
I'm not saying I don't believe her, I just can't help but wonder....
how was she attracting all of this abusive energy into her life when she was at the height of her witchcraft blog/workshop fame? Like, what is the point of all this if even these so called teachers and witches can't even use their "powers" to discern shit and get their life together. IF she had all these tools available to her (spirit guides, goddesses, spells etc how did she end up in two supposedly abusive relationships? Why was this person attracting all these bad forces into their life?"
Thinking back to Kenny Klein and the more recent accusations against Issac Bonewits. So many so-called high priestesses and psychics etc hung around these people, yet not a damn one of them could figure out what was going on??? REALLY???!!!
Sorry, not trying to be an ass but I think there are a lot of questions like this that many of us have but are too afraid to ask, for fear of looking like a victim blamer. Which I am totally not. I believe she was abused.
Today on Facebook, A white gay man tried to "school" me about feminism and how white women still have work to do
LOL Get the fuck outta here buddy.
I don't care if he's gay or not, he's still a white man that will have more privilege than I ever will. I ripped him a new one and logged off. Certainly don't want to waste energy arguing with people over shit that is never going to change.
Some of the worst offenders I've come across are men who claim to be liberal, pagan etc.
Telling women how they are not spiritually evolved because they don't want to be poly and expect their partner to be monogamous.
Using paganism and ritual as an excuse to prey on inexperienced festival goers.
Even transwomen come to the experience of living as a women with their male privilege still embedded in their psyche. This was made evident to me when they starting telling cis women that it was discriminatory to not include them in women's circles, which often include being skyclad and doing healing for menstruation, childbirth/miscarriage, sexual abuse, etc. Instead of founding their own traditions with their own unique mysteries and experiences, their demanded to invade the space that women had to create for themselves back in the 60s/70s with Dianic Wicca.
Of course, I don't think transwomen should be discriminated against; I also don't think they have a right to invade other women's safe spaces. That just screams male privilege to me. Sorry.
And no, I don't have a solution or an answer to how it should be handled. And as a cis-het woman, it's not my place to figure it out.
Nobody knows what the fuck they are doing, other than telling other people how they are doing feminism, paganism etc wrong.
I remember when 90s feminists fought against the wearing of a hijab and Islam. Now, you are a bigot if you don't support women who wear it.
Ummm ok???
Listening to pagans on the internet lecture and degrade people who want to live a stable life (own a home, have a nice job. marriage whatever) really makes me think the whole scene is a crabs in a bucket situation.
You aren't pagan enough unless you are poor, apparently. The whole thing is absurd.
The majority of these people have mental health issues, can't pay their bills, have dysfunctional abusive relationships etc.
And as soon as someone starts rising above, experiences success they are accused of selling out. Being a traitor, a capitalist, etc.
Women being kicked out of covens because they got married to a man. Being told they can't be a true feminist unless you are a lesbian. Fucking seriously, yes this has happened several times over the years in the pagan world. And every time I can't help but think....what the fuck are we doing here? What is the point of all this?
Tired of the fake Facebook activism.
Tired of the ever-changing and nonsensical "rules" of how to be a feminist.
Tired of people constantly wanting to engage in the oppression Olympics.
Tired of charlatans and abusers who are never held responsible in the pagan community. OR ANY RELIGIOUS COMMUNITY.
Tired of people giving advice when they don't have the results from magick that they claim know the secrets to.
Aradia supposedly came here to teaches us witches to fight our oppressors, yet it seems that most people are doing it to each other and to themselves.
Funny thing is, one of the alleged victims was a VERY prominent teacher, blogger, herbalist etc.
She now accuses two of her exes of some pretty horrendous things. And she also accuses other authors of sexual abuse at pagan festivals.
I'm not saying I don't believe her, I just can't help but wonder....
how was she attracting all of this abusive energy into her life when she was at the height of her witchcraft blog/workshop fame? Like, what is the point of all this if even these so called teachers and witches can't even use their "powers" to discern shit and get their life together. IF she had all these tools available to her (spirit guides, goddesses, spells etc how did she end up in two supposedly abusive relationships? Why was this person attracting all these bad forces into their life?"
Thinking back to Kenny Klein and the more recent accusations against Issac Bonewits. So many so-called high priestesses and psychics etc hung around these people, yet not a damn one of them could figure out what was going on??? REALLY???!!!
Sorry, not trying to be an ass but I think there are a lot of questions like this that many of us have but are too afraid to ask, for fear of looking like a victim blamer. Which I am totally not. I believe she was abused.
Today on Facebook, A white gay man tried to "school" me about feminism and how white women still have work to do
LOL Get the fuck outta here buddy.
I don't care if he's gay or not, he's still a white man that will have more privilege than I ever will. I ripped him a new one and logged off. Certainly don't want to waste energy arguing with people over shit that is never going to change.
Some of the worst offenders I've come across are men who claim to be liberal, pagan etc.
Telling women how they are not spiritually evolved because they don't want to be poly and expect their partner to be monogamous.
Using paganism and ritual as an excuse to prey on inexperienced festival goers.
Even transwomen come to the experience of living as a women with their male privilege still embedded in their psyche. This was made evident to me when they starting telling cis women that it was discriminatory to not include them in women's circles, which often include being skyclad and doing healing for menstruation, childbirth/miscarriage, sexual abuse, etc. Instead of founding their own traditions with their own unique mysteries and experiences, their demanded to invade the space that women had to create for themselves back in the 60s/70s with Dianic Wicca.
Of course, I don't think transwomen should be discriminated against; I also don't think they have a right to invade other women's safe spaces. That just screams male privilege to me. Sorry.
And no, I don't have a solution or an answer to how it should be handled. And as a cis-het woman, it's not my place to figure it out.
Nobody knows what the fuck they are doing, other than telling other people how they are doing feminism, paganism etc wrong.
I remember when 90s feminists fought against the wearing of a hijab and Islam. Now, you are a bigot if you don't support women who wear it.
Ummm ok???
Listening to pagans on the internet lecture and degrade people who want to live a stable life (own a home, have a nice job. marriage whatever) really makes me think the whole scene is a crabs in a bucket situation.
You aren't pagan enough unless you are poor, apparently. The whole thing is absurd.
The majority of these people have mental health issues, can't pay their bills, have dysfunctional abusive relationships etc.
And as soon as someone starts rising above, experiences success they are accused of selling out. Being a traitor, a capitalist, etc.
Women being kicked out of covens because they got married to a man. Being told they can't be a true feminist unless you are a lesbian. Fucking seriously, yes this has happened several times over the years in the pagan world. And every time I can't help but think....what the fuck are we doing here? What is the point of all this?
Tired of the fake Facebook activism.
Tired of the ever-changing and nonsensical "rules" of how to be a feminist.
Tired of people constantly wanting to engage in the oppression Olympics.
Tired of charlatans and abusers who are never held responsible in the pagan community. OR ANY RELIGIOUS COMMUNITY.
Tired of people giving advice when they don't have the results from magick that they claim know the secrets to.
Aradia supposedly came here to teaches us witches to fight our oppressors, yet it seems that most people are doing it to each other and to themselves.